Ep.41 Stoicism and Belt Fed Tangents with Bill Buppert.Anarcho-Yakitalism Podcast

Bill Buppert comes on with me to talk about Stoicism, but we get off topic quite a bit. We’re Freedom Feens, we live off belt fed tangents.

Check out these links:

Bill’s website: http://zerogov.com/

Bill’s book “Limited Government, Unicorns, and Other Mythological Creatures.” : http://zerogov.com/?page_id=338

Bill and Brett Veinotte’s series on Stoicism on School Sucks: http://schoolsucksproject.com/category/podcast/the-philosophy-of-stoicism/

Freedom Feens site: http://freedomfeens.com/

William Irvine’s book “A Guide to the Good Life: The Ancient Art of Stoic Joy”http://www.amazon.com/Guide-Good-Life-Ancient-Stoic/dp/0195374614

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3 Responses to Ep.41 Stoicism and Belt Fed Tangents with Bill Buppert.Anarcho-Yakitalism Podcast

  1. Geoffrey Hazelton

    This was especially good. What an interesting person! I would have many questions for Bill. Have him expand on what he is doing in the Hindu Kush and why there. It sounds so exotic. also what is his idea of how to bring about political change? Does he advocate just dropping out? I still think Stoicism says we have a civic duty. My pet ideas are to start with “right to work” and privatization of as much government as possible.
    I like his take on karma: what you sow you reap. From Stoicism Meditations: “all of what exists is the seed of what will emerge from it. you think the only seeds are the ones that make plants or children? Go deeper!

  2. Richard Hauser

    Still a fan, but this was not one of my favorite episodes. I give you credit, you tried to keep him on point and I appreciate a lively and varied discussion, but in the end a listener still doesn’t have any idea what Stoicism is. There definitely were some interesting gems of ideas mentioned like negative imagery and I loved the idea of being a modern day “abolitionist”, so I will read up and find out what you were talking about, but I thought I would mention it as you are a good interviewer, but in this case you couldn’t keep him on track. I’m not even sure what the best tack you could have taken, as you seemed to have a good basic script and I don’t think continually badgering him with the same question would have worked either. All I’m saying is that there are definitely some art forms to the interview that you may need to pick up to improve this part of your chosen profession.
    Hopefully you will find the above constructive. I don’t mean to sound overly negative but I thought I should say something.Maybe if this occur again you could record an intro that includes key info or something.

    Now on to questions: violence broker = politician. I get where he is coming from but what about true democracies like Athens or some American Indian tribes. If every person joins a group voluntarily and has the ability to leave the group at any time then politicians could be elected to run community projects without the threat of violence. Is that Anarchy or is it just temporary authority? This idea stems from our discussion of how an anarchic society could go to war and my only answer is in cases of war or any other major event (large hunt, flood, large building project) that needs mass community response, I would think that a temporary leader would be appointed to give the project the focus needed to fulfill it. This person would be a politician who would run and hold an office for the purpose of leading a specific project through to fruition at which point the position would cease to exist.

    Discrimination vs. pattern recognition: The guest poses the idea that the word discrimination has been hijacked and is not evil as without it, it is impossible to think logically. He is using the definition where discrimination is making a distinction, like being a
    “discriminating consumer”. I guess he can choose to fight the good fight to guide our language use, but for clarity I would suggest something like pattern recognition. In either case there is some evil in the term as they attempt to over simplify the world. Pattern recognition is useful as long as you understand the context under which the pattern was created so that you understand the complexity of the pattern. Racism is discrimination where someone can make gross generalities about a race based on patterns observed in a small subset of the race involved and the other -isms result from other cases where correlation does not imply causation.

    Karma => social capital. I’d say what the guest is really talking about when he says Karma is social capital.

    I’m confused by three cases of perceived internal conflict mentioned by the guest. First, he does not believe in psychiatry yet labels himself as Autistic. I’d suggest he come out against pharmacology instead of psychiatry.
    Second he is a writer who doesn’t believe in intellectual property. I don’t understand that stance. How is a writer’s work not valuable but a carpenters work is? Temple Grandin has several patents. Her work will benefit many, shouldn’t she be compensated?
    Lastly, he is against limited government, but runs a site called zerogov. What is his path to success? Does he think we can go cold turkey?

    Just some thoughts, keep up the great work.

    • Nick

      Always love feedback, negative or positive, it’s all constructive to me. I was worried this show would be hard to follow and wouldn’t be enough to explain stoicism, thank you for pointing it out to me.
      I forget that not all of my audience is used to some of the jargon and the assumptions a lot of anarchists use and make. I definitely want to have Bill on again to talk about more things. I hope we’ll be able to stay on topic better next time.

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